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 Post subject: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:31 am 
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We are looking for input on the points system. This year we want to make some changes that will include the two out of three match races in the points series. What ideas do you guys have?

One idea is to give every round in the two out of three a points value. What do you think about this?

Example; Racer A is racing racer B, Racer A wins two round and the match he is awarded 5 points per round win, plus a bonus of 5 points for winning the match up. Racer B wins one round but looses the match he gets 5 points. This would include a three tenths breakout.

Any ideas? Whats your thoughts?

Also Quick Eight?

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:33 am 
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2009 Points Series-


2009 SuperCar ShootOut Series Points System

Points will be awarded to each car based on the following criteria-

SHOW UP POINTS
Come to an event without your car and support the race= 2 Points

QUALIFY POINTS
Come to an event and Qualify for the day and recieve= 12 Points

QUICK-8 (1-8)
Qualify for Quick-8= 10 points

Quick-8 Qualifying Bonus* -
Level 1, Super Cars (10.99 & below) = 1 point
Level 2 (11.00 - 11.49)= 2 points
Level 3 (11.50 - 11.70)= 3 points
Level 4 (11.71 & up)= 4 points

Number 1 Qualifier= 1 point

All Quick-8 Round Winners= 1 point

Quick-8 Winner Bonus= 1 point
Quick-8 Consolation Winner= 1 point


SECOND QUICK-8 (9-16)
Qualify for Second Quick-8= 8 points
All Second Quick-8 Round Winners= 1 point
Second Quick-8 Consolation Winner= 1 point


Points will be awarded at all SuperCar ShootOut events in 2010


Quick-8 Qualifying Bonus -
All cars start at Level-4
@ 11.70 the car will move to Level-3
@ 11.49 the car will move to Level-2
@ 10.99 the car will move to Level-1 SuperCar

Once a car reaches the next Level #, it will remain there for all future 2009 races.
Even if the car can not perform at the current level. Unless the combination changes)
New level takes effect immediately when next performance level is attained.

Points are assigned to the car and combination. (Motor / Trans)
Points can not be traded, sold or given.
All runs must be official SuperCar runs ie: official SuperCar Event.

Prizes will be awarded at the end on the SuperCar Season at our annual Awards Banquet.

Examples:
Car A starts the year as a 1971 Cuda 440 six pak, runs 11.50. (the car is now Level-3) After 3 races the motor fails. Motor is replaced with a 383, this is now a new combo and starts over with points, at the performance level the new combo is running.

Car B starts with a 1971 Mustang 351 Cleveland running 12.21. (the car is Level-4) After the forth race the car is replaced with a 429 running 11.41. This is now a new car, and the points start over at Level-2.

Car C starts with a 396 Camaro and a TH350 running 11.78. (Level-4) Later replaces transmission with a 4 speed running 11.55. The car starts over in points, at Level-3.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:58 am 
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I don't know about the three tenths break-out. I would hate for it to turn into bracket style racing. If you don't have enough cars at an event, with more faster cars than slower, the faster car has to worry about going too fast. A slower car like mine could out run a faster car providing the faster car spins out of the hole,or, misses a shift on a stick car. Maybe the slower car could get a few extra points for beating a faster, but, I wouldn't do a 3 tenths penallity. Just my thought.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:32 am 
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Mike just to clarify the 3 tenths rules is similar to what we have now. If you qualify at one E/T and in elimination you run 3 tenths quicker you are disqualified.

We have had a couple of racers in the past qualify at a slower E/T on purpose, just to be paired up with a car they know they can out run. We want to stop this. Pure Stock drags has used the 3 tenths rule we are currently using a 5 tenths rule.

What does everyone think 3 tenths or keep it at 5 tenths.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:43 am 
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The 3 tenths and 5 tenths only applies to Match Races. This does not apply to Quick Eight

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:13 pm 
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number 1 qualifier should get more pts . Same as a round, with #2 getting half. And #3 getting half again etc... Until u get to 1 point for the remainder. Some racers might be just in it for the low ets. Also some pts for setting the et record.


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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:35 pm 
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I think a three tenths rule will only be upsetting to cheaters. The only problem would be a two day event with qualifing on a hot humid Saturday and the match races on a cool dry Sunday. My car can pick up over three tenths in that kind of situation without touching anything from one day to the next. It has happened to me at LVD and E-town. But as any racer knows, three tenth is a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:48 pm 
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I agree Hal :agree , At every SuperCar 2 day events we allow at least one additional round of qualifing on the second day. Also it is never mandatory that you attend both days. At our two day events we have plans to run a Saturday program that include qualifing for Sundays main event.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:48 pm 
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MFChassisworks wrote:
number 1 qualifier should get more pts . Same as a round, with #2 getting half. And #3 getting half again etc... Until u get to 1 point for the remainder. Some racers might be just in it for the low ets. Also some pts for setting the et record.


:agree low E/T of the event and top MPH of the Event

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:35 pm 
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I think a 5 tenths rule is probably better for this type of racing. My glaring example would be Ken's Camaro...

It set low ET in the 10.60s so you know what it is capable of, but at Etown this past weekend it was not out of the 11s. If he qualifies at a 11.18 but makes a last minute change before round "next" and rips a 10.65, on a 3 tenths rule he would be out...5 tenths not so.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!!! Even if I get beat because of it...haha :aok


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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:06 pm 
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BanditDave wrote:
I think a 5 tenths rule is probably better for this type of racing. My glaring example would be Ken's Camaro...

It set low ET in the 10.60s so you know what it is capable of, but at Etown this past weekend it was not out of the 11s. If he qualifies at a 11.18 but makes a last minute change before round "next" and rips a 10.65, on a 3 tenths rule he would be out...5 tenths not so.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!!! Even if I get beat because of it...haha :aok



The 3 / 5 tenths rule only applies in the two out of three match races. And if we possibly run a second quick eight field. Everyone that qualifies in the quick / quickets eight are not required to meet this rule.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 SuperCar ShootOut Points Series
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:30 pm 
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RalphsRapidTransit wrote:
BanditDave wrote:
I think a 5 tenths rule is probably better for this type of racing. My glaring example would be Ken's Camaro...

It set low ET in the 10.60s so you know what it is capable of, but at Etown this past weekend it was not out of the 11s. If he qualifies at a 11.18 but makes a last minute change before round "next" and rips a 10.65, on a 3 tenths rule he would be out...5 tenths not so.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!!! Even if I get beat because of it...haha :aok



The 3 / 5 tenths rule only applies in the two out of three match races. And if we possibly run a second quick eight field. Everyone that qualifies in the quick / quickets eight are not required to meet this rule.



Gotchya, thanks! :aok


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