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 Post subject: Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:56 pm 
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Started a new topic for f1scamp on the proper way to install a vacuum pump and make it look 100% Stock Appearing


Brian wrote-
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A valvecover with a fitting for a vacuum pump between the firewall that you can't see unless you know what you are looking for is not stock appearing, but a car that sounds like a jet plane is okay? We watched old races down at ed's, and Ralph, you could tell your car was coming even if it wasn't the next one in the screen. You need to put that pump inside somewhere, or get a quieter pump.


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F1scamp wrote:
What about the vacuum pump hookup? A misrouted pcv hose is the acceptable way, no hidden fittings?

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 Post subject: Re: PCV Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:56 pm 
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F1scamp wrote:
What about the vacuum pump hookup? A misrouted pcv hose is the acceptable way, no hidden fittings?



Brian, I run my vacuum pump that way, it works great. I didn't have to drill or modify the valve cover. Only thing I did was fill the breather to close of the crank case. If you need to run a vacuum pump on your car, then YES, it would be a great way to make it work properly and look 100% stock. Let me know if you need help with this, I have some great ideas for a 340 with 1971 / 1972 valve covers. The key is to make sure you spend enough time to make the PCV hose look factory appearing.

You can barely see it with the air cleaner off.

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Can't see a thing with the air cleaner in place.


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Again let me know if you want pointers on this. Call me anytime....

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 Post subject: Re: PCV Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:23 am 
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What pump are you running Ralph? I assume some type of secondary air pump. I have a couple of VW air pump's, I wonder how much vacuum I could get out of one. The problem is they draw near 30amps at full tilt.
I'd like to have one of those star pumps, but thats a tough pill to swallow. :bang

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 Post subject: Re: PCV Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:38 am 
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I think it's a Moroso pump, Brian we will have to have Ed Cook give us the information on the pump. Ed Cook asked the same question a couple of years ago when he was having all sorts of issues blowing oil all over his engine bay. :sick I went through all the part numbers and gave Ed the information to research the pump. I am sure Ed Cook will post the info we are looking for when he reads this. Ed found the pump and is using the same exact pump in his SuperCar Road Runner and I am sure it will be in the '63 Super Max Wedge.

In the HP2 I installed the pump on a toggle switch inline with a relay. I am now able to power the pump on and off when I want. I personaly like it on all the time on the HP2. It goes with the old Cop/FBI car image :aok , sounds like a siren. I like it :lol: .

On a 1971/1972 small block Chrysler I would not go to the PCV. I would run the pump to the breather. If you're not liking the siren sound it makes install the pump in the heater box like I told Ed to do.

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70 RoadRunner 440+6 Auto 11.05 @ 125MPH 1.67 60' S/A

70 AAR Cuda 340+6BBL 4 Spd. 11.58 @ 121MPH 1.76 60' S/A

72 Demon GSS 340 S/A 11.76 @ 118MPH 1.89 60' S/A


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 Post subject: Re: Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:51 pm 
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The pump that I have found is out of late model ZL1 unit. It has the same part number as the one you use Ralph (although I can't get mine to sing like yours). Moroso no longer makes an electric pump!! If you have the money you can buck up and use the star pump for $1600.00.

I paid $350.00 for the chevy one on ebay. It is listed as Engine Works electric pumps. It has worked fine for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Vacuum Pump
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Ed Cook wrote:
The pump that I have found is out of late model ZL1 unit. It has the same part number as the one you use Ralph (although I can't get mine to sing like yours). Moroso no longer makes an electric pump!! If you have the money you can buck up and use the star pump for $1600.00.

I paid $350.00 for the chevy one on ebay. It is listed as Engine Works electric pumps. It has worked fine for me.


ZL1 :shrug I have a GM part in my Mopar :sick I will never hear the end of this.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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70 RoadRunner 440+6 Auto 11.05 @ 125MPH 1.67 60' S/A

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72 Demon GSS 340 S/A 11.76 @ 118MPH 1.89 60' S/A


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