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 Post subject: Welded Mufflers (What are they?)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:48 pm 
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Can you define what welded mufflers are? Are Flowmasters 40 series considered welded mufflers? Just trying to understand what's good to use.

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 Post subject: Re: Welded Mufflers (What are they?)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:40 pm 
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A welded muffler is a Pypes, Flowmaster style muffler. The case is welded instead of a crimped case.

In the last year or so, Pypes came out with a welded muffler that looks stock. It has an oval case, very nice piece :aok . I have them on my HP2 Belvedere I.

4.04 Mufflers must be stock looking in design (Welded mufflers not encouraged). Maximum muffler inlet and outlet is 2.5”.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:09 pm 
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Looking for the best flow through muffler that fits the rules. :hungry
I think my dyno max super turbo are hurting me.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:32 pm 
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I would go with the Pypes mufflers and take the points hit. It is the best muffler available and looks stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Welded Mufflers (What are they?)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:59 pm 
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I agree w ralph(finally)
I used to be that welded looked totally race!
But alot of them now are very neat, and oval as opposed to square with rounded edges!

I just changed from the cross flow i Had to two welded!
Didnt see more mph last week, but i think it sounds more mellow!

Definitly ditch the turbo mufflers :aok

There are some good offerings from borla too, that are oval, strait thru, and look pretty stock

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 Post subject: Re: Welded Mufflers (What are they?)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:08 pm 
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Probably the best crimped style non welded muffler is these

http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers.php?muffler=ultrafloss

17283 is a common 2 1/2" configuration that works well on most cars..side in center out. They are "straight" through with perforations with some sound absorbtion material.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:08 pm 
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Thanks I had just come across the Dynomax ultra flow, which seemed to fit the bill, when I thought I'd ask. Jeff who spec my cam told me they were probalbly hurting me, but until I saw an animation of the super turbo's flow I never figured it was so much of a restriction. :bow Two 180 degree turns

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I think the dynomax are great
The problem with most test results ive researched on line is......

Who's doing the test!!
Just stay away from the turbo type or the chambered!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:22 pm 
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Thank you sir, I'm sure either one will be much better than my super turbo's, :drinking

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:44 pm 
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Yes,
Btw, thanks for the video.... Stunning
To see
We never get to see our cars run!
So cool, keep up the good work, ..... And the editing Lol

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:22 pm 
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Agreed on that video ..Thanks! I new my camber was off and nose was sky high but that tells me tons. The camber is skewed because car was 1 inch higher on pass side when aligned...when i reset rear springs so car didnt sit crooked it made the camber on driver side go in and pass side go out just from the tilt of the car! I also have way to much front travel and the driver side a arms is binding at full drop. i think it get stuck at full extension!


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 Post subject: Re: Welded Mufflers (What are they?)
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Yeah.....!!what he said :rock

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:31 am 
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It doesn't look like the toe is changing that much at full drop. really packing some air under the nose. It seems to be an issue all the quick cars have.

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