Sportsman-consolation and 2 out of three makes good sense that way if you get knocked out of the quick 8 in first round you get at least one consy run maybe 2.so in the end everyone gets at least 2 runs in eliminations.

Anyone not like a sportsman ladder?

John has captured the essence of the whole thing... food and more food!

Everyone knows that I would prefer a handicap eliminator. I would love to see something like a stock eliminator type run-off. How cool would it be to see that Pontiac 2+2, from Atco, John's Hurst Olds, Cannon's Mustang or Scott's W-31 Olds be top eliminator. I envision the race run on a pro tree, 2 tenths max allowed over qualifing time during eliminations, and a consolation bracket for the first round losers. The result would be minimum of two rounds of eliminations for everyone just like in the two out of three or quick eight. Season points would be awarded on rounds won two points per round for the top eliminator and one point per round in the consolation bracket. Extra points for low ET and top speed to encourage performance. Hey maybe you could even get the altered wheelbase cars into an eliminator.

But at the same time I would not want anything to hurt the race series and I don't plan on being in a Super Car Series quick eight anytime soon so let the eight to ten guys who regularly run it decide. Well thats my or maybe more.

Hal

Gee, My post from last night seems to have gone over like a fart in church.

I like your post, I also like the heads up aspect.

This year I hope to have more insite on the Two out of Three match race. With the building of my 1971 Road Runner I hope to run mid pack, I will get to see first hand how it works.

Jeremy, John, Bill, Harry ? Anyone have any input.

I am all about a close drag race that is decided by a fender-length or less at the stripe. Nothing better in my view. How about a more extreme Quick 4 or final 4, and let the 5th position and down run 2 out of 3. Or, keep the Quick 8 if you have enough cars for a tight field. I do think the Sportsman ladder would be better, as mentioned earlier.

Along Hal's thinking, if you ever get a 2 day event, I think a throw-back to the Super Stock days would be cool and unique. Run Supercars' normal event the first day, that would be like "class". And then the next day you could put togather a handicapped "eliminator" event, using everyone's qualifying times from the previous day. Just something to think about to keep the events fresh. Sometimes I don't see why everyone is so against mixing in a little bracket style racing within the group.

Mike

I agree. Why couldn't it be mixed up and run a quick 8 sportsmans ladder with a bracket format 9 and up. Everybody cringed when Gonzo suggested that even though the grumbling was from the solid quick 8 club but I thought it was a good idea.

I 'll back-up with what John said 100% Well said John, I felt the same way when racing Scott's car a couple of times. I had more fun racing a close car than a car that was a second faster!!!!

1-5
3-7
2-6
4-8

good as long as second round

winner of
1-5 races winner of 3-7
2-6 races winner of 4-8

then 1 and 2 can still meet up possibly in final. Thats "correct" format i beleive?

i do think that would add parity in eliminations only 4 positions between all
1-8
2-7
3-6
4-5
vs
1-5
3-7
2-6
4-8


so if 5678 loose 1st round
5-7
6-8
then
winner 5-7 races winner 6-8

i should of just erased all this..
Barrt Jacksons eating whats left of my brain

My head hurts from reading that.

will look like this in round two

1-5 races winner of 4-8
2-6 races winner of 3-7

We like the Sportsman Ladder. It looks like everyone else does as well. Look for this to be the new race format for the SuperCar ShootOut quickest and quick eight fields in 2010.

Lets talk about the rest of the field. Two out of Three, what do you guys want to do? We do have a couple of two day events planned for 2010 Mike, we can do the traditional format on day one and day two??? First two day is in May at E-Town.

Mike, give us more info.. What does this look like? How many rounds of Competition will these guys have..

The 2 out of 3 races are the best races to me. I just made three quick 8's this past season...The 2 out of 3 bring the best out in me, where in the quick 8, I am just waiting for the a$$ whipping. Being number 8 in the quick 8 is no fun . I like Mikes idea of the quick 4. Here is a link of the sportsman ladder with different car counts. It appears to get the cars closer.

http://www.raceamerica.com/download/ladders/ladr16s.pdf