hi folks. my name is david byrd. i have followed the year one f.a.st. for some time. and this supercar shootout looks pretty cool as well. i am a long time mopar fan, and have owned over 100 various mopars in the past 20 years. i have a few on hand now, most important of which at the moment is my latest project. i am starting on my own entry into the f.a.s.t./supercar classes. i am building a 70 challenger r/t 383/4-spd car. i already have the engine-trans-rear planned out,the rest will merely be restoration. luckily i am starting with a 95% rust free car. before long the body will be off to a local media blaster and i can get this deal underway.

Welcome aboard. Whats that car going to look like when done?? Color??

welcome aboard!
yes, give us the details!

have you raced before?

yeah, i have raced off and on over the years, brackets at local tracks, nothing major. i had initially planned out the car to be FC7 plum crazy,but, seems there are alot of challengers in that configuration. so, i am going to repaint the car in it's original (read odd and rare) color of VL1 beige (i think chart calls it pebblestone) with the black vinyl top and black bucket seat guts. the car actually started life as a challenger deputy, 318/3-spd,manual steering,brakes,non-air car. whats funny is the car is like one of 1200 (have to look at galen's white book to refresh my memory) so, i am sure there is a purist somewhere that is gonna be screaming. lol. to add to the look i am going with painted steelies, a set of the stainless dog dish caps, and F-60 polyglas gt's. as for the engine,well,lets just say i have alot of work ahead of me. i am using a motorhome 400 block, a 4.250 stroke crank,extensive work on a set of 915's,and ALOT of extrude-hone work. i am going with a custom ground hydraulic roller cam for this build.i plan on shifting this thing at about 7000-7200 rpm. i have a gentleman here that build 4-spds for some NHRA competitors and he says there are alot of tricks to do to my 833. i will run the 8 3/4 with 3.55 gears. thats about all i can think of at the moment. what do y'all think?

sounds like a good combo in a plain brown wrapper!
i like it!

make sure you read all the rules and work with in them.
there are some gray areas that allow for wiggle room,
but if you have any questions just ask, we have a great bunch of guys.

Ralph has those wedge motors pretty well figured out. You might want to consider his technical input to enhance the learning curve. And just my opinion, but 7000+ RPM shifts into second gear on a good track could be a little rough on 8.75 u-joints. But I'm old and antiquated, so maybe there are some new concepts now to render that concern obsolete.

Speaking of antiques, are those original cast-aluminum, American Racing "Daisy" wheels stacked up on the floor? Cool- and I thought I was the only misfit running those wheels anymore.

-J

Hello and welcome aboard Dave........
That sounds like quite a rare rocket.
I cannot wait to see this monster shifting
over 7000 rpm's!! That will be quite a site to
see!!!
I was reading your recipe and thats quite a
machine.......
You are going to need to research those heads
a little more before you dump the big bucks
into them, that is a '67 only head, and as the rules
go, you have to stick with the correct year heads.
You may want to contact the rules committee,
and find out just whats accepted in that department.
Sure would hate to see money wasted.......
Good luck to you, and here's a chart by year for
casting numbers.........Darrell

the rule: 2.03 Cylinder Heads and Intake Manifold MUST be correct OEM casting, have correct original casting numbers and be of correct original material.



RB/B Engine Cylinder Heads Casting Numbers
Casting Number Engine CID Year Intake Exhaust
4021051 360 1977-86 1.88 1.60
1737637 361 1958-59 1.94 1.60
1944705 361 1958-59 1.94 1.60
1737637 383 1960 1.94 1.60
2206324 361/383/413 1961-62 2.08 1.60
2206924 361/383/413 1961-62 2.08 1.60
2463200 361/383/413 1963 2.08 1.60
2406516 361/383/413/426 1964-67 2.08 1.60
2408520 413 1964 2.08 1.60
2402557 413 - 300J 1963 2.08 1.74
2402286 413/426 Max Wedge 1962-63 2.08 1.88
2463209 426 Max Wedge 1963 2.08 1.88
2406518 426 Max Wedge 1964 2.08 1.88
2406158 383/440 1967 2.08 1.60
2780915 383/440 1967 2.08 1.60
2780915 440HP 1967 2.08 1.74
2843906 383/440 1968-70 2.08 1.74
2951250 440 1968 2.08 1.74
3462346 383/400/440 1971-72 2.08 1.74
3462346 400/440 1973 2.08 1.74
3751213 400/440 Motor Home 1973 2.08 1.74
3769902 400/440 1974 2.08 1.74
3769975 400/440 1975 2.08 1.74
4006452 400/440 1976-78 2.08 1.74

hey Dave,
Here is the exhaust manifold chart also!!
Darrell

RB/B Engine Exhaust Manifold Casting Numbers
Engine Year Remarks Casting Number
383 1959 Right 1739599
2205535
383 1959 Left 2205536
383 1960-64 Right 2205535
383 1960-64 Left 2205536
383 1965 Right 2205535
383 1965 Left 2461307
383 1966-69 Right 2532464
383 1966-69 Left 2461307
383 1968-69 Barracuda & Dart / Right 2863000
383 1968-69 Barracuda / Left 2899002
383 1968-69 Barracuda& Dart / Right 2863900
383 1968-69 Barracuda & Dart / Left 2946720
383 1968-69 383 Magnum / Right 2806900
383 1968-69 383 Magnum / Left 2843992
383 1970-71 B&C-Body / Right 2899879
383 1970-71 B&C-Body / Left 2951865
383 1970-71 C Body / Right 2899879
383 1970-71 C-Body / Left 2951216
383 1970-71 C-Body / Right 2899970
383 1970-71 C-Body / Left 2951861
413 1959 Right 1739599
413 1959 Left 2205536
413 1961 300G / Right 2205830
413 1961 300G / Left 1947434
413 1961-64 Right 2205535
413 1961-64 Left 2205536
413 1962 Max Wedge / Right 2402334
413 1962 Max Wedge / Left 2402336
413 1963-64 300J & 300K / Right 2402781
413 1963-64 30J & 300K / Left 2402782
413 1965 Right 2205535
413 1965 Left 2463107
426 1963-64 Max Wedge / Right 2402334
426 1963-64 Max Wedge / Left 2402336
426 Hemi 1964-65 Hemi / Right 2465657
426 Hemi 1964-65 Hemi / Left 2468658
426 1964-65 Right 2205898
426 1964-65 Left 2203262
440 1966-68 Right 2532464
440 1966-68 Left 2461307
440 1967 440 Magnum / Right 2806900
440 1967 440 Magnum / Left 2806974
440 1968-69 440 Magnum / Right 2806900
440 1968-69 440 Magnum / Left 2843992
440 1970-71 C-Body / Right 2899879
440 1970-71 C-Body / Left 2951216
440 1970-71 B - C Body / Right 2899879
440 1970-71 B - C Body / Left 2951865
440 1970-71 C-Body / Right 2899970
440 1970-71 C-Body / Left 2951861

Dave,
Here is the rule I was looking for........
and with a machine like yours to be....
Its gonna fall under this rule!!

(of course, having a '67, I will always
take those 915 heads off your hands... LOL)

Darrell

17.03 SuperCars Running 11.70 or quicker may be asked to remove valve covers to check casting numbers.

thats cool,if need be,i have atleast 5 pairs of 906's and 5 or 6 pairs of 452's sitting on the shelf. so i can work the hell out of a set of 906's. i have 3 pairs of 68-71 magnum manifolds to work with as well. couple of correct 69-70 intakes too. and yes, those are the original cast cp 200s daisy mags on the floor. i have an original set of 15X8.5 AR torq-thrust originals on my big 73 C-body polara custom wagon.

Hi Dave welcome to the Board and SuperCars Make yourself comfortable. You have one great car. I love your combo ideas and the color . The Guys all gave you great pointers. Feel free at anytime to call me 860 416-1228. For Your build you may want to consider Porter Racing Heads for your head porting needs. He knows the class very well and will give you the best bang for your buck. You can also call Nick @ Compu-Flow as well as Mike form HP Motors they all understand the class very well. Last year I built a stroker 400 for Johns 1970 Bee It's best ever to date is 12.10 @ 113 MPH. The Bee has way more in it. (And Harry is making a Bee line for the record in '09) The Bee is dual purpose Cruiser / Racers.

Again, Welcome and call when ever you want.